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Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby BlackEagle » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:58 pm

Has anyone used one of these yet? Any reason to not use one on an Oly 9mm? :thumbs up:
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Re: Slide Fire stocj with Oly 9mm AR

Postby shootermcmillan » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:17 pm

Just the cost of 9mm :D
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby Globemaster » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:03 pm

BlackEagle wrote: Has anyone used one of these yet?

I had one ... I sold it off
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby BlackEagle » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:13 pm

So should I not use it? That looks pretty serious/dangerous.
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby Globemaster » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:36 pm

if it were me? I wouldn't, as the 'Blow-Back' systems don't have any locking lugs ... like the AR15's do :wink:
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby John A. » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:36 pm

Looks like an expensive way to bump fire to me.

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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby TravisM.1 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:07 pm

Globemaster wrote:
BlackEagle wrote: Has anyone used one of these yet?

I had one, and 'never used it' ... it was for a left handed shooter; and in fact, I just sold it off last week to a guy in KAILUA KONA, HI.

BlackEagle wrote: Any reason to not use one on an Oly 9mm?

other than possibly blowing-out a 9mm case … as I’ve blown-out a casing bump-firing my 9mm a few years ago.

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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby Globemaster » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:11 pm

yeah it took me by surprise when it happened too; as I was bumping it at ‘waist height’ so nothing got in my face (luckily) but it’s definitely not something I’ll ever do again! … thanks for sure!
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby BlackEagle » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:39 am

John A. wrote:Looks like an expensive way to bump fire to me.

Yup, it was presented to the BATFE as a safer way to bump fire (since you are able to maintain more control of the weapon.)

What happened mechanically to cause the blown out case?
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby John A. » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:19 am

Sadly, the Akins Accelerator was too and that didn't turn out too well. They had a letter from tech branch saying it was alright too.

Until they changed their mind and they all had to be surrendered as new machineguns.



As GM has pointed out, the 9mm AR variant is a direct blowback action that doesn't lock the bolt when it's closed and ready to fire like the 5.56 and other versions.

The cartridge wasn't all the way seated in the chamber when it went off and wasn't fully supported.

The ruptured case was the result.

This is also somewhat common with open bolt machineguns like the Uzi and Mac's. They typically are referred to as OOB's. (Out of Battery Discharges)
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby Rattler » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:02 am

A couple of comments regarding this yoyo below.

    1. It's rock River 9mm upper. Is is direct blow-back, or gas impingement?
    2. Bump firing is uncontrolled fire. This is ALWAYS dangerous.
    3. This guy is in serious danger of going to jail for a long time if that thing he is shooting is not a registered short-barreled rifle. My guess is that it is not because the tube does not have a stock body on it. Well, too bad for him. He needs to read what the definition of a buttstock is. If the firearms is designed and meant to be "fired from the shoulder", as obviously this long recoil tube system and the ways in which he fires the SBR indicate, whether it has a shoulder pad on it or not is irreverent. This guy is walking a tight rope, and I want no part of it.


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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby John A. » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:21 am

I noticed how he was using it too.

And to me, it looks more like an A2 tube than a short pistol length buffer tube. But it's hard to tell with the video quality if it has the threaded part on the rear of it that would accept a buttstock. If it has threading, I have heard of people being busted for intent for less.
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby BlackEagle » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:41 am

Rattler wrote:2. Bump firing is uncontrolled fire. This is ALWAYS dangerous.

I'm not doubting you, but it seems to me the SlideFire stock allows at least as much control as any automatic rifle.
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby John A. » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:50 am

BlackEagle wrote:it seems to me the SlideFire stock allows at least as much control as any automatic rifle.


Maybe almost

At least compared to some "bump firing" I have seen.

But the gun nevertheless is still moving within the rear stock, whereas an automatic would not be.
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Re: Slide Fire stock with Oly 9mm AR

Postby BlackEagle » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:11 am

The pistol grip and buttstock remain stationary against the shoulder, the rest of the weapon only moves straight fore and aft (1/2" at a time) and is controlled by the other arm/hand. Rather than having the entire weapon (and your body) recoil with every shot, a lot of the recoil is absorbed by your left arm(for right handed shooters.)

Blown out cases aren't worth the risk though.
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