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Stuck 9mm casing

Postby rgold1963 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:24 pm

My kids and I were shooting the K9-GL last night when my son told me it wouldn't fire. He had just loaded a new magazine and fired one round when it jammed. I couldn't see any light through the barrel so I ran a cleaning rod down it and the actual bullet fell out. Closer inspection and I found the back rim of the shell casing but the rest of the casing appears to be stuck in the barrel! Any ideas how to get it out? This is the first time I have had a misfire/broken casing with this weapon.

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Rattler » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:34 pm

rgold1963 wrote:My kids and I were shooting the K9-GL last night when my son told me it wouldn't fire. He had just loaded a new magazine and fired one round when it jammed. I couldn't see any light through the barrel so I ran a cleaning rod down it and the actual bullet fell out. Closer inspection and I found the back rim of the shell casing but the rest of the casing appears to be stuck in the barrel! Any ideas how to get it out? This is the first time I have had a misfire/broken casing with this weapon.

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Broken shell extractors are designed for such a task. Barring not having that, you can try a cotter-pin puller and see if you can get in front of the case neck, or tick it into the brass and wiggle it out. Just make sure that you do not get the pin puller dug into the side wall of the chamber itself.

For me the bigger question would be, why did the case separate?? :yikes:
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby rgold1963 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:48 pm

Do they make broken shell extractors in 9mm? I haven't found one yet but will keep looking. I have no idea why the case split. I think it must have been defective because the back end in the chamber is perfectly round and smooth. When I first looked in to the chamber, my first thought was how did a casing get in there backwards? Which of course is impossible but the end looks just like the bullet end of the casing. It was American Eagle ammo which I have fired quite a bit through this rifle. Hopefully this will be the only time it happens!
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Globemaster » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:54 pm

rgold1963 wrote: My kids and I were shooting the K9-GL last night when my son told me it wouldn't fire. He had just loaded a new magazine and fired one round when it jammed.

Q: were you shooting ‘Factory’ ammunition? or reloads?

rgold1963 wrote: I couldn't see any light through the barrel so I ran a cleaning rod down it and the actual bullet fell out.

if you retrieved the 9mm ‘bullet’ from the barrel; that to me sounds like a ‘Squib-Load’

rgold1963 wrote: Closer inspection and I found the back rim of the shell casing but the rest of the casing appears to be stuck in the barrel!

Q: where did you locate the rim of the 9mm casing? was in on the ground? or in the lower receiver?

rgold1963 wrote: Any ideas how to get it out? This is the first time I have had a misfire/broken casing with this weapon.

try Rattlers suggestion; by using a long handled ‘pick’ … but do be careful to not damaged the chambers sidewalls.

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Rattler wrote:For me the bigger question would be, why did the case separate?? :yikes:

especially … if it was a ‘Squib-Load’ ?
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Rattler » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:57 pm

American Eagle is not known for being notoriously high quality ammo. Matter of fact, they did some hefty recalls on 45 ACP ammo:
http://www.federalpremium.com/pdf/45_Auto_warning.pdf

You know the old adage: Garbage in Garbage out. I know that people buy the 9mm to shoot cheap ammo, and AE certainly qualifies. But if that's the case, we must not get too upset when it produces results like this. The brass should come out without too much work.

But, I'd call FEDERAL and tell them, you may get some free ammo out of the deal.
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby rgold1963 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:03 pm

Globemaster wrote: Q: were you shooting ‘Factory’ ammunition? or reloads?

Factory ammo

Globemaster wrote: Q: where did you locate the rim of the 9mm casing? was in on the ground? or in the lower receiver?

It was in the lower receiver.
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Globemaster » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:37 pm

then it wasn't a 'squib-load' then; as the gasses escaped 'rearward' when the case ruptured.
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Globemaster » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:05 am

well ... were you able to extract the 'stuck' 9mm case?
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby rgold1963 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:41 pm

Globemaster wrote:well ... were you able to extract the 'stuck' 9mm case?



Not yet. Looks like I am going to have to take it to a gunsmith in town. More than likely it's going to take some cerrosafe to get it out. I've been too busy to take it down there this week. Hoepfully next week I will have time. I'll let you know what happens though.

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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Globemaster » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:20 pm

rgold1963 wrote: More than likely it's going to take some cerrosafe to get it out.

Q: why would they need to preform this process? to remove a stuck-case?
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby rgold1963 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:02 pm

Globemaster wrote:
rgold1963 wrote: More than likely it's going to take some cerrosafe to get it out.

Q: why would they need to preform this process? to remove a stuck-case?



There is only about a 1/2 inch of the case left in the chamber. It's so thin that nothing I have will grab onto it. I talked to a gunsmith and he will try and get it out with the tools he has but if he can't, then he said he has used cerrosafe quite a few times for this situation. THey make a plug at the top end of the casing with a patch and pour the cerrosafe inside the stuck casing. When it cools, you should ba able to push the whole thing out and it's completely safe for the barrel and chamber. I am hoping he has something that will be able to grab onto it but it's wedged in there pretty tight from the next round that tried to load.
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Re: Stuck 9mm casing

Postby Globemaster » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:08 pm

rgold1963 wrote:he said he has used cerrosafe quite a few times for this situation. They make a plug at the top end of the casing with a patch and pour the cerrosafe inside the stuck casing. When it cools, you should be able to push the whole thing out and it's completely safe for the barrel and chamber.

I am hoping he has something that will be able to grab onto it but it's wedged in there pretty tight from the next round that tried to load.

understood; it's an interesting process, and I was curious about it ... thanks for the information :D
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