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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Wed May 22, 2013 9:02 pm

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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Fuldagapflieger » Thu May 23, 2013 6:41 am

Looks like someone's been good...very good! Don't wait for Christmas to put'em under the tree...need to air'em out and show'em off! Congrats Globie!
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Once a Marine....... » Thu May 23, 2013 9:05 am

These are new arrivals? ...... :D
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Thu May 23, 2013 9:25 am

yes, I ordered up (3) HRA's and (3) SA's and only the HRA's shipped, as the SA's are 'Back Ordered' and they come in a nice CMP logo'd green colored plastic hard case now :-)
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Tim Z » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:15 pm

So if you were to order one of the CMP Specials where they install the new barrel, would you go with the 308 or original 30-06? I have always wanted one, but haven't even shot one. Is there a big difference in the perceived recoil between the two? Thinking about the Boss shooting it also.

Another question, the original M1s can or can not shoot the new ammo?
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:15 pm

Tim Z wrote:So if you were to order one of the CMP Specials where they install the new barrel, would you go with the 308 or original 30-06?

either would be a fine choice; with 30.06 being the traditional cartridge.

Tim Z wrote: I have always wanted one, but haven't even shot one.

I’ve haven’t shot mine in awhile.

Tim Z wrote: Is there a big difference in the perceived recoil between the two? Thinking about the Boss shooting it also.

.308 a bit less ‘felt recoil’ than the 30.06, either way, the ammounition is crazy expensive currently.

Tim Z wrote:Another question, the original M1s can or can not shoot the new ammo?

‘Original’ NO … and I see guys doing it all the time at the range too; as the checkin station at the range will sell anything, to an unsuspecting ‘unknowledgeable’ buyer.

and when I do see a guy shooting ‘High Powered’ 30.06 new production ‘Deer/Elk hunting’ ammo, I will mention something to them, as I don’t want to see the op-rod come flying off the rifle.

and typically, they will pick up their toys and pack it up for the day; which is a wise decisions; as the M1 Garand’s a designed to use M2-Ball ammunition.


note: I saw (1) 192-count SPAM-CAN selling for $325 the other day; and I paid $85ea. for these cans back in 2007.


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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby John A. » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:50 pm

That is such a nice looking gun.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:25 am

John A. wrote:That is such a nice looking gun.

I traded that (1) off for a nice SA 1911 w/ extras



this is now my Springfield Armory® and I have a Harrington Richardson® too, that is a touch cleaner, as it has the replacement 'CMP' wood on it :thumbs up:

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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby mechanic » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:41 am

? Is there any ammo of current production that can be fired in one safely? Or is old surplus the only option. How about any from other countries?
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:00 pm

there are other manufactures of M2 Ball, and that stuff in the images, is Greek M2-Ball, sold by the CMP
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby John A. » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:08 pm

I had a few bandoliers of the old greek stuff a few years back.

Pretty good ammo all in all.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:40 pm

mechanic wrote: ? Is there any ammo of current production that can be fired in one safely? Or is old surplus the only option. How about any from other countries?

here are a few links; and I know some or all of them are outta stock, and/or overly priced; but that just seems to be 'the norm' these day :bang:

Link (1) AmmoGarand.com

Link (2) AIMSurplus.com

Link (3) JGSales.com


from the CMP Forum Board >>> http://forums.thecmp.org/archive/index.php/t-52571.html
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:08 pm


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MANY M1 GARAND OPTIONS - SOLD OUT.
As most of our customers and competitors know, this year has seen a nationwide unprecedented purchasing of firearms and ammunition. The panic buying, along with the increased popularity of the M1 Garand has impacted significantly on the CMP. Our store racks are bare and our M1 Garand ready to ship inventory of several grades and manufacturers has been wiped out and the waiting list (backorders) for some items exceeds 2,000 orders. As a result, we have stopped accepting orders for several grades and manufacturers. Please see http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm for additional information.

Several years ago CMP received a large quantity of M1 Garand rifles from the U.S. Army. People generally assume that these were complete rifles, already packed and ready to ship. That is not the case. The "rifle" may be a stripped receiver, welded rifle, barreled receiver, complete rifle, used, unused, or even a lump of metal with a tag on it saying that this was serial number xxxxx destroyed in a fire. We still have thousands of these uninspected rifles in storage. The rifles are stored in unopened crates in several warehouses. We work (inspect, repair as needed, and grade) these rifles one crate at a time. Until we work a crate, we do not know what manufacturer we will find or how the rifle will grade.

The item with the largest amount of backorders is RM1HRAS, Harrington and Richardson Arms (HRA) Service Grade M1 Garand. Our serial number records show that we have significantly more HRA serial numbers than any other manufacturer, which is why we are still taking orders for this option. We do find 10-20 M1 Garands manufactured by Springfield Armory (SA) each week. We are not finding enough of these SA rifles to again begin accepting orders for them, but as we do find SA M1 Garands, we are contacting customers on the RM1HRAS list to see if they would accept the SA as a substitute, since pricing is the same for both. We work the oldest orders first and are now contacting a few customers whose orders were received in March 2013. We request that customers not contact us requesting a change, but wait till we contact them, since we will give the opportunity to change first to oldest orders.

AGUILA .22 CAL AMMO. This week we received an unexpected 300 cases of Aguila 419ASVGE and 400 cases of Aguila 419ASVSE. Oldest orders for these two items will be processed next week. This will still leave 5,460 open orders for the standard velocity 419ASVSE and 309 orders for Golden Eagle 419ASVGE. The next shipment is expected in October 2013.


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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:10 pm

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CMP Advanced Maintenance Class - FULL. We advertised the first CMP Advanced Maintenance Class last week and received an overwhelming response. This new class will be held at the CMP Custom Shop and will allow students to build their very own M1 Special Rifle during the class. The first, lucky 20 students have been notified of their acceptance into the class. If you applied and did not get accepted, the CMP plans to hold additional classes next year in Anniston. Dates will be announced at a later date and an email announcement will be sent out. There is no waiting list for the class and will be on a first come, first serve basis. For more information, visit http://www.thecmp.org/Training/AMC.htm.

CMP Stores Days of Operation. Beginning in October, 2013 the CMP stores will only be open three days a week: Thursday through Saturday. The days of operation are being reduced as a result of the decreasing amount of rifles that we will have available for sale. The CMP stores will NOT be open on Wednesday, 2 Oct.

Registration Open for 2013 Western CMP Games. The Western CMP Games will be held 11 - 15 October, at the Ben Avery Shooting Facility in Phoenix, AZ. Visit http://www.thecmp.org/Competitions/
WesternGames.htm to view the Official Match Program and to register On-line.

New in 2013: The CMP will hold the traveling Small Arms Firing School and M16 EIC Match on Friday October 11th during the CMP Western Games. A new Modern Military Category has been added to the GSM Match. Competitors will have the ability to fire in a maximum of four separate events during the CMP Games. Shooters may choose to fire a Garand, Springfield, Vintage Military or a Modern Military Rifle.


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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:17 pm

Update: me personally, I see the CMP being driven out of its current business plan, due to what has taken place, with the passing of those (2) Executive Orders.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Thom » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:07 pm

About the Sporting Ammo issue, here is an excerpt from the Hornady Website:

Hornady Ammo wrote:Until now, Garand shooters have been limited to military surplus ammunition, handloading, and 30-06 commercial ammunition that is often too powerful for the sensitive gas powered operating system of the M1 Garand. "Permanent damage can occur while shooting standard factory loaded 30-06 ammunition in the M1 Garand," said Dave Emary, Hornady Chief Ballistic Scientist. "Typical factory loads contain propellants that when fired, result in port pressures and gas volumes that are too high, causing violent stress to the rifle's operating rod, bolt, and receiver."

The M1 Garand uses a gas port system to cycle the action, but existing 30-06 ammunition can burn too slow, causing the operating system to be driven harder and faster than intended. This new offering from Hornady is purpose built to provide accurate, safe and ultra reliable functioning for the M1 Garand.


The full page can be found here:

>>Hornady M1 Garand Match/Hunting Ammo<<

I have always heard that reloading for the Garand required you to use the old style Dupont IMR 4350 or 4895, but I really never knew why. I have learned that there are commercial aftermarket adjustable gas nuts available to "Tune in" the rifles for commercial sporting ammo, but I can't find any reports or articles about folks actually using them.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:43 pm

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CMP UNVEILS NEW CUSTOM SHOP FOR USGI FIREARMS IN ANNISTON

By Steve Cooper, CMP Marketing Manager

ANNISTON, AL - Over the years, many Civilian Marksmanship Program firearms purchasers have asked if the CMP would consider offering reliable, reasonably-priced and prompt maintenance, repair and upgrade of USGI-issue rifles. The CMP has responded and the answer is "YES" we will.

Effective October 1, 2013, the CMP Custom Shop will open for business, providing a wide variety of repair, upgrade and custom services for a wide range of U.S. Military rifles, specifically those issued in early eras.

The CMP Custom Shop will be able to perform virtually any normal upgrading, accurizing, customizing and refinishing (not to mention regular repairs and troubleshooting) to the types of rifles that we are currently selling or have sold in the recent past.

CMP will specialize in working on the M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, 1903 and 1903A3 Springfield, the 1917 Enfield and the Krag. Other rifles like the Remington 40X, Mossberg 44 and H&R Model 12 can also be serviced if needed. CMP will NOT be working on shotguns, pistols, revolvers, M14/M1A, AR15 style rifles or other commercially-produced modern rifles.

The CMP Custom Shop can work on rifles that may have been purchased elsewhere as long as they were made by a USGI contractor. Some examples include: Springfield Armory (not Springfield Inc.), Harrington & Richardson, Winchester, International Harvester, Remington, Rock Island, Eddystone, Inland, Underwood, Rock-Ola, Quality Hardware, National Postal meter, Standard Products, IBM, Irwin-Pederson and Saginaw.

There are many NON-USGI copies of the M1 Garand, 1903 Springfield and especially the M1 Carbine that CMP will be unable to work on.

Those wishing to use the CMP Custom Shop must be a customer on file in the CMP system in order for the CMP to receive and work on their rifles. Customers must meet the same eligibility requirements as for rifle purchases from the CMP.

To begin the process of returning a rifle to the CMP Custom Shop, customers must complete the "CMP Custom Shop Request Form" and print a copy. Customers must then contact the CMP Custom Shop Clerk to provide details of their shipment and request form. Once the clerk has recorded the request, you will be provided with a Return Authorization #. The Return Authorization # must be located on the top of the CMP Custom Shop Request Form and on the outside of the shipping box so CMP can verify the shipment when it arrives.

After filling out the form completely, make sure a copy is placed in the box/case with the rifle so CMP will know who it's from and what modifications are requested. Customers must also fill out a CMP Order Form and include the completed forms in their shipment.

Customers are responsible for shipping expenses when sending items to CMP. Standard CMP shipping charges apply for the shipping of the rifle or other items back to the customer. The current rifle shipping rate is $24.95. The shipping charge for barrels, receivers or parts is $9.95. If you would like to request a shipping label to send your items to the CMP, please make your request when talking to the CMP Custom Shop Clerk and you will be charged $29.95 for the shipping label.

The CMP Custom Shop shipping address is not the same as the regular CMP shipping address. Correspondence and items for the CMP Custom Shop must be shipped to:

CMP Custom Shop

1803 Coleman Rd

Anniston, AL 36207



If a customer wishes to purchase a rifle from the CMP and have the CMP Custom Shop make modifications to it prior to shipping, that can be done by adding the desired work and part NLU numbers to the order form page 3A along with the rifle desired.

Customers should expect the CMP Custom Shop to continue the CMP traditions we are known for: customer service, quality and reasonable turnaround for most work.

For a list of services, their item numbers and prices for that work, visit the CMP Custom Shop web page at http://www.thecmp.org/sales/customshop.htm.

If you want more information about CMP Custom Shop, please contact the Custom Shop at customshop@thecmp.org or call (256) 835-8455, ext. 1113.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby John A. » Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:17 am

That's the last thing I expected to hear from them.

I wonder what they do to accurize an old garand?
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:00 pm

I was surprised to read that email too; and I'm curious what they do to them too.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby mechanic » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Ok I was looking at CMP and they have some with new wood and new 308 barrels so ? would the 308 be able to shoot current production ammo or would it too have to use surplus?
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:31 pm

I'd be willing to bet that you could use .308 Mil-Surp ammo (7.62x51mm) in it; just like in the 30.06 variants, you'd want to use M2Ball; but using modern day high-powered/high performance hunting ammo on either of them ... I'd say no.
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby mechanic » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:14 pm

Thats a bummer, wish I had loading equipment to make some of the cool guns more duable. :bang:
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:30 pm

I wouldn't let that slow you down; if you want one, I'd say go for it ... while they're available. :mrgreen:
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Re: CMP M1 Garands

Postby Globemaster » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:15 pm

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ONCE FIRED BRASS. Once fired brass from CMP test firing operations in calibers .30 carbine, .30-06 M2 Ball and .30-06 blank ammo is now available for purchase at both CMP stores and on the CMP E-Store. We only have approximately 200 boxes in stock and do not expect to accumulate this amount of brass again for 2-3 years. Mixed headstamps. Brass has not been cleaned. See the surplus ammo page on E-Store at http://estore.thecmp.org/store/catalog/ ... st&cat=AMS.


AMMUNITION UPDATE. The CMP has been notified by ammunition manufacturers and distributors to expect price increases and significant delivery delays for all calibers of ammunition, especially for .22 rimfire. The price increases and delays apply to orders we have already placed with the manufacturers. Prior to 2013 CMP received deliveries of truckloads of ammo within a few weeks of placing orders. We are now being advised, as in the case of Aguila .22, that it may take several years to receive all of the 35,000,000 rounds of Aguila ammo we have on order.


As a result of this situation, CMP has placed orders with several different manufacturers for large amounts of ammunition in various calibers. We expect to receive only a few pallets at a time because manufacturers and distributors are rationing the ammo to their customers. As we receive ammo, we will contact customers with oldest orders already in place with the option to purchase whatever we receive at the new prices, cancel the order, or remain on the list for the manufacturer they originally requested. All price increases to CMP will be passed on to the customer. CMP will not be profiting from the increase in prices.


We will continue to accept orders for ammunition, with the understanding that the wait time for customers between placing an order and receiving the ammunition may be anywhere from a few weeks to a few years. Most other retailers are in the same situation as the CMP. We suggest that customers leave their CMP orders in place and not cancel until they are able to purchase ammo elsewhere. CMP customers will be contacted as to pricing and manufacturer before any orders are filled. We do not expect to have any additional information until after the annual SHOT Show in mid-January, when we will meet with all of the ammo manufacturers.


CMP HOLIDAY SCHEDULE. All CMP operations (to include the retail stores at Camp Perry and Anniston) will close on 20 Dec, 2013 and not reopen until 2 January 2014 to give our staff some well-deserved time off to spend with their families. Please note that there will not be any staff available to answer emails or phone calls or receive mail or FedEx or UPS shipments.


HOLIDAY WISHES. The CMP Board of Directors and staff wish all CMP customers, volunteers, coaches, competitors and families a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 2013 has been the busiest year ever for CMP in all areas. Sales exceeded all expectations; new CMP air rifle and high power events were accepted enthusiastically; earth moving has started on the CMP Talladega Marksmanship Park; the renovation and expansion of the Gary Anderson CMP Competition Center at Camp Perry is almost complete and the CMP mobile air rifle range is in high demand. We thank each and every one of you for your continued support of the CMP mission to promote marksmanship and firearms safety.



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