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All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:41 pm

A while back, I was able to purchase my wifes' late stepdads' little .410 NEF singleshot.

I wasn't very interested in adding another .410 to the collection, but in order to keep it from being sold outside of the family, I bought it anyway. And to be honest, it probably hadn't seen 2 boxes of shells through it since he owned it so it wasn't a bad purchase anyway.

For some time, it had been taking up some space in the back corner of the cabinet. And one day I got curious about when it was made and started doing some research online to find the history and found on NEF's website that I could send it to Remington to have it fitted for different barrels, so being so comfortable hunting and shooting with break action guns, I decided that if I'm going to pass it down someday to my kids or grandkids, that it may as well be a gun they could get when they're young and grow with it until they can pass it down again and would be something that they can make memories with themselves so it would mean more to them.

So, it originally came with the .410 barrel, and I had them fit a 20 gauge barrel, a 12 gauge barrel, and even a .38/.357 magnum barrel for a brush gun for deer or even bear if they didn't want to use slugs.

In knowing that the 357 magnum barrel could also shoot 38 special, and that 38 special is inherently subsonic, I sent it out to JP grips to have that barrel cut down to 16 inches, recrowned and threaded so I could put my 9mm silencer on it which would be even better for the younger generations in learning to shoot it and I am ultimately allowed to use a silencer while hunting too, so was not a very hard decision to make.

Anyway, I'm really digging how well it turned out and am looking forward to seeing how it does pretty soon.

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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Thom » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:18 pm

Now that is massively sweet! I have always had a soft spot for the H&R/NEF Shotgun & Handi-rifle. My first shotgun, which I still have, is an H&R Topper in 12 gauge with the barrel cut down to 18.5" with a sling and an elastic stock band six round ammo carrier. Later I had a Handi-rifle in .30-30 which made the hand-me-down rounds through the family, not sure where it landed but I don't have it anymore. Both were very handy trail guns. I always really wanted to rechamber a .44 Mag to .444 Marlin, that one is still on my bucket list!
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:46 am

I think there are many who cut their teeth on break action shotguns. My first gun was a Stevens 94, but they're similar in many ways.

In my case, the 357/38 has been on my list for a very long time. Mostly due to the brush gun aspect and being able to suppress the 38 so well.
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Thom » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:23 pm

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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Thom » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:31 pm

They claim that:
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:35 pm

Yeah, but I think I'm going to avoid that one.

To be perfectly honest, that's not their first shotgun suppressor. They had one several years back, but only limited info out there about them.



But I am looking forward to hearing the 38 special through it :thumbs up:
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:30 pm

I was able to zero the scope on the rifle barrel today and I think it's going to be a dandy whitetail brush gun for me.

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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Globemaster » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:13 pm

very nice :thumbs up:
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Thom » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:21 am

That's sweet John!
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Once a Marine....... » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:51 pm

Cool beans :thumbs up:
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:28 am

Thanks guys.

I really like the little gun. I think it will work really well for its' intended purpose.

It is now wearing a slip on Limbsaver pad for the younger ones to make things as painless as possible.
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Rattler » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:11 am

Nice video John - good work.
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:07 am

Thanks Rattler.

The video was just a quick and impromptu one just to show a few of my buddies what it sounded like.

I was really happy that the 38 and 357 are close enough to the point of aim at the distance that I'll be hunting so I don't have to constantly keep adjusting my crosshairs back and forth between the two rounds. That would get old after a while. And on the same note, I am pleased when shooting the 38, that the longer throat and jump doesn't negatively affect the 38 too badly in the accuracy department.

From everything I have read, both the cartridges get several hundred more fps than advertised due to the longer barrel. I have read the 357 should be well into the 1700 fps territory, so that will be more than adequate for whitetail at 50 yards and in that I regularly get to shoot.
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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby Thom » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:44 am

Many thousands (Admittedly a wild rear-end guesstimate but probably close!) of deer have been killed with .357 Mags in handguns and rifles, it is just fine for the task at reasonable ranges.

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Re: All purpose rifle

Postby John A. » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:56 am

I have a friend who was able to put a tag on a nice 6 point buck when we were in high school using an old lever action in 357, so I know it can be done. I just haven't ever done it with one myself.

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