Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10FP LE/Series

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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby shootermcmillan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Thats about what I paisd for my bell and carlson stock.
Shown with the .308 that didnt like my target loads
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:31 pm

after looking around, and doing some more research and searching ... I'm just going to go with the Choate 'Sniper Stock' as most of my shooting is from the bench anyways.


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(A) The grip cap covers a storage area in the stock. For some snipers, the weight of the rifle is not a factor and in some cases, extra weight it wanted. If you need more weight to your stock, you may pour the cord out area full of lead shot and scre the cap back on. It is also possible to put a basic (pull through) cleaning kit in this area. We also noticed that eight 30-06 rounds will go into the grip for an emergency ammo supply.

(B) This “T” rail allows many accessories to be placed on your rifle. We furnished a solid steel “T” bar with a detachable sling swivel stud installed. This is for mounting of a Harris bipod. Many other accessories may be mounted on this bar. The “T” bar has a quick detach thumb screw. Some snipers will want two bipods mounted, short for prone and tall for sitting position. Additional “T” bars are available at a nominal cost. Also any accessory that fits a Anshutz rifle will also fit this “T” rail.

(C) This area is flat to stabilize the rifle when shooting from a rest. It is 1 and ½ inches wide and heavily serrated. The elevation fine adjusting knob (Q) can be removed, leaving a 3/8 inch threaded hole and stock totally flat on the bottom.

(D) The forend is 2-3/8 inches wide to also assist in holding the rifle in a stable shooting position.

(E) The length of pull can be adjusted from 13-1/4 inches out. The stock comes with one ½ inch adjuster spacer. Additional spacers are available at a nominal cost. They come in ¼ inch , ½ inch and ¾ inches in thickness. You will also get a set of longer screws when order additional spacers. (Note: We designed the stock, starting short, to fir the law enforcement snipers that must wear thick body armour.)

(F) The stock is furnished with two cheek pieces. The standard height is for low scope rings. The tall cheek piece is for the big lens scopes that require the tall rings.

(G) The position of the cheek piece is adjustable. There are three front and back positions to accommodate all shooters. Also the cheek piece can be turned around for the left hand shooters.

(H) The bedding block is a most important part of the stock. The receiver of the rifle only touches the stock/bedding block in four places, both sides of the “V” in front and back. The pillar blocks allow a 40 to 50 inch lbs. on the receiver screws which is not possible with wood or most synthetic stocks. The CNC machined bedding block is molded inside the stock, not fiberglassed in after the stock is made.

(I) The barrel channel is large enough to free float a 1 and ¼ inch diameter bull barrel.

(J) See feature (A).

(K) The four slots are for attaching of camo material. Most sniper experts agree that is adversely effects accuracy to attach camo material to a barrel and there are accommodations on most stocks for camo material. We haven’t done any testing, but common sense would tell you that the slots would also help dissipate barrel heat.

(L) These side mounted sling swivel studs fo through a cored hole in the stock. In “front rest” shooting, the conventional bottom mounted sling studs get in the way and are usually removed. Major Plaster explained to us during the design phase of this stock that a sniper crawling on his belly carries his rifle on the top of his upper arm and/or across his back while holding the sling in his hand. A side mounted sling is perfect for this application. . If you insist on a conventional bottom mounted sling, we can put an additional stud on the “T” bipod bar and custom make a stud that will screw into the elevation adjusting knob hole, see (Q).

(M) The stippling in the grip areas is unusually aggressive and rough to the touch. Major Plaster wanted it this way. Some shooters wear gloves and the rough texture is needed. If you want a smoother grip surface, sand the area until the desired feel is found. The stock is about ¼ inch thick in this area, so don’t worry about sanding the texture down. Also please notice that the front grip is narrowed. It is this narrowed size to accommodate one hand carry of the rifle. Major Plaster complained that most sniper/tactical stocks are very fat in this area and very difficult to carry one handed (suit case style) at the balancing point. We fixed the problem.

(N) This section of the forearm had a pronounced angle for two reasons. When the bipod is folded up it doesn’t leave a 2 inch gap between it and the barrel. The bipod feet are very near the barrel and will catch fewer limbs and twigs when crawling prone. The second reason for the angle is for quick elevation adjustment of the barrel when the forend is resting on a support. When you push the stock forward, the barrel goes up. When you pull the stock back, the barrel elevation is lowered. This is so simple that no one seems to have thought of it before or didn’t think it was important enough to include on a stock.

(O) This flat surface, parallel to the barrel, is for the shooters that have/use sandbags, We are told that real nippers wait and watch much more than shoot. It is helpful if the rifle doesn’t fall over every time you take your hand off the rifle. This area has heavy 1/8 inch serrations as the bottom of the butt area.

(P) This off hand holding notch has been on machine guns since World War II. The advantage of this feature in a sniper stock is that you can hold your butt stock on your shoulder with your off hand. This allows the trigger hand to relax and concentrate only on the trigger pull. This off hand hold has been proven to be beneficial over the years. It is a feature that the expensive, labor intensive, hand laid fiberglass stock makers find very difficult to incorporate into their design.

(Q) This is a fine adjustment screw for elevation. The bench rest shooters and prairie dog hunters will really like this feature. Consider this, a one degree turn on the elevation screw will raise or lower the stock only 0.00017 of an inch. This is truly fine adjusting. This screw has about 2” of engagement and can be removed with ease when not needed. It is very easy to adjust with the thumb and index finger on either side of the stock. We have found, in the prototype stage of design, that the coarse adjustments can be made with the bipod legs and “spot-on” adjustment done with the screw.

(R) The rubber recoil pad has five height settings possible. The center settings line up with the stock and there are two ¼ inch positions up and two down. One of these five positions will surely meet your needs.

(S) The bipod “T” bar mentioned in (B) is made from solid steel and is 3 ¼ inches long. There are many different uses and application for this accessory other than a bipod. If you have a need for a special accessory, your local gunsmith won’t have any trouble duplicating the dimensions.

(T) We, Major John Plaster and Choate Machine & Tool Inc have a design patent pending as of 11/22/96.



There are some points of interest not mentioned above that we will mention here. The ULTIMATE SNIPER stock has our usual LIFETIME WARRANTY. The stock is made of DuPont Rynite SST-35. It is one of the most expensive polymers and the most suitable for a gunstock if weight is not a consideration. We mold the stock in dark O.D green color. Rynite takes paint very well, so you can paint your stock with almost any automotive spray can paint. The availability duck boat camo paint works very well. The rubber recoil pad is a little on the stiff side because it is much more durable at this durometer rating than a cushy pad with a ¾ inch compression which can allow a shooter to get a scope eye piece hit in the eyebrow. Hell you could lose your scope’s zero on a deal like that.

We predict that this stock will be a benchmark for sniper rifle stocks in the near future. We have features that the hand laid fiberglass/Kevlar stock makers cannot incorporate into their stocks. What we have done is eliminate most of the expensive hand labor and passed the savings onto you. We are keeping the price down so that most rifle owners can afford this stock. We realized the only way for this stock to sell enough to pay off the expensive tooling cost was to get the price low enough so the average guy could buy one. There aren’t enough real snipers, military and police to support this project even if every one of them bought this stock. Most shooters know what free floating the barrel and a bedding block does for a rifle. It closes the group to about ½ its normal size.
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby shootermcmillan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:36 pm

Should work......eeevill features, Diane frankenhag will be quivering :wink:
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:44 pm

shootermcmillan wrote:eeevill features, Diane Frankenhag will be quivering :wink:

that works for me! ... and it looks like my only options are either O.D. Green or Black; I wish it came on FDE, but I don't see it being offered anywhere? unless I'm missing something?
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby mechanic » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:54 am

I always thought a 308 was a long action?
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby shootermcmillan » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:13 pm

The Marine Corpse builds theirs on the the long action.....they use one action for all theirs.308- .300Win
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:30 pm

I'm quite sure that the Savage .308 is a 'Short-Action'
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:33 pm

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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:21 pm

I'm liking the looks of this stock; it's cost a bit more, and they're on Back-Order at MidwayUSA too.
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby shootermcmillan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:41 pm

The B&C Medalist is what Im using. You may need to use a barrel channel rasp to achieve total free float. I didnt have the right tool to achieve clearance when I installed my stock, so I shimmed the recoil lug enough attain free float. Worked well enough that I never went back and finished the job :D
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:58 pm

roger that SM, and if I do opt for that stock; I'll definitely have Jim Cloward install the Savage 10FP works into that B&C stock; as he's the gun smith that did the chamber work on that Remington triple-deuce; and he's also the RSO at the Machias 500 yard range; but soon to retire from from the RSO gig, the last time I heard from him while at the public shooting event.
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Once a Marine....... » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:53 pm

GM.... How is that Remington...... are you still shooting it ?
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:26 pm

it's great Marine, but I haven't ranged it in awhile; as I've been shooting Com-Bloc ammo and .22LR for the most part, while the prices are pretty crazy on everything, other than the x54r
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Postby Rattler » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:36 am

shootermcmillan wrote:Bell & Carlson for about $200, that's what I'm using.


I'm not sure if I mentioned this before or not, but I was involved in the development of what became this stock with B&C. This stock design is a combination of some of the better elements of about three companies, McMillan, Brown and H-S Precision. It was first commercially used on the Olympic Arms Ultra-CSR Rifle (Counter Sniper Rifle) that was my first project I worked on here at Olympic Arms back in 1995-1996. The rifle was built on a custom blue-printed Sako 550 action, an Olympic Arms Ultramatch 30 cal barrel (of course), a Bell & Carlson Stock, and Harris bi-pod. Great sniper rifle and is still in service in several countries.
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Postby Globemaster » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:43 pm

Rattler wrote: I was involved in the development of what became this stock with B&C.

if I remember correctly; it was on a Remington M700 correct?
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Postby Rattler » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:38 am

Globemaster wrote:
Rattler wrote: I was involved in the development of what became this stock with B&C.

if I remember correctly; it was on a Remington M700 correct?


Nah - read the rest of the post: Sako 550 -

Rattler wrote: This stock design is a combination of some of the better elements of about three companies, McMillan, Brown and H-S Precision. It was first commercially used on the Olympic Arms Ultra-CSR Rifle (Counter Sniper Rifle) that was my first project I worked on here at Olympic Arms back in 1995-1996. The rifle was built on a custom blue-printed Sako 550 action, an Olympic Arms Ultramatch 30 cal barrel (of course), a Bell & Carlson Stock, and Harris bi-pod. Great sniper rifle and is still in service in several countries.
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Postby Globemaster » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:12 am

Rattler wrote:Nah - read the rest of the post: Sako 550 -

roger that ... oops!
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:15 pm

I got a notice from MidwayUSA this morning; the Bell & Carlson Medalist in 'Black w/ Gray' spiderweb became available; it's on it's way :D

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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:07 pm

I got a hold of Jim Cloward (Master Gunsmith) this afternoon, he's the gunsmith that did the chamber and bolt rework on my triple-deuce Remington M722 a few years ago; I'm going to have him 'Glass-Bed' the B&C Medalist Stock and Savage barreled-action; i figured if I'm going to go this far with it, I might as well have him do it ... and do it right! :thumbs up:
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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:25 pm

the B&C stock arrived yesterday; and I contacted Jim a few days ago too; just to see what his scheduled was looking like, as I wanted to get it bedded before he went on another hunt in South Africa; and I probably could've mounted the Savage action to the B&C stock on my own; but I wanted it done 'Right' :thumbs up:

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Re: Target/Sniper Stock for a Savage® 10PF LE/Series

Postby Globemaster » Thu May 02, 2013 7:19 pm

I'm getting excited now! the rifle should be ready to be pickup tomorrow afternoon! :thumbs up:
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