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Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:50 pm

Hey guys, I'm looking at purchasing some coyote hunting shells. I was wondering if any of you have used the Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum® shells. They seem to be reasonably price compared to the Hevi-Shot "dead coyote" ammo which runs you $54 for a box of 10! Also if you have any experience with other coyote loads let me know what you think of them.

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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Thom » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:06 pm

Back in my coyote hunting days I used 12 ga with #4 buckshot or a .22 pistol when calling at close range in the creek bottoms and a Burris scoped 14" .223 Contender when hunting in the open at longer ranges. I have absolutely no experience with "Heavy Shot" of any kind, I really don't see the need for it.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Globemaster » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:31 pm

I would think that 'buck-shot' would be more than enough; depending on the distance?
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:13 pm

Globemaster wrote:I would think that 'buck-shot' would be more than enough; depending on the distance?




Distance is within 50 yards. The reason I am using a shotgun is that I night hunt. The last 2 night hunts I've been in I called in two coyotes at roughly 50 yards but didn't feel comfortable with my load at the time. Once I buy some of the Hornady heavy magnum I plan on doing several accuracy test.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:25 pm

Globemaster wrote:I would think that 'buck-shot' would be more than enough


I don't know if this is heavy shot if that's what your implying. Hornady's website words it awkwardly:

The Hornady® Heavy Magnum® Coyote shotgun loads deliver lethal results and minimal pelt damage out to 50 yards!

Loaded with 1 ½ ounces of nickel plated lead shot in your choice of either a BB or 00 buckshot offering, these 3 inch, 12 gauge shotshells are the perfect answer for close range predators. Both loads feature the Hornady® Versatite® wad that strips cleanly from the shot string for excellent pattern density and a short shot column for maximum effect on target.

Or it's that I'm a idiot and am too tired to read :mrgreen:
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Globemaster » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:35 pm

if your not to worried about the pelts? ... I'd just use buckshot
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:30 pm

I'm not worried about the pelts. Just Pest control right now.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:45 pm

Does anybody have the defanition for "hevi shot"? Kinda confuse if its a type of shot or just a marketing name.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Globemaster » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:02 pm

my guess, it's just a marketing name ... ?

Loaded with 1 ½ ounces of nickel plated lead shot in your choice of either a BB or 00 buckshot
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:30 pm

That's what I'm leaning towards.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby jerry » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:04 pm

"Hevi-Shot is a non-toxic alternative to steel with density similar to that of lead shot. This pellet produces impressive long-range patterns and down-range lethality.
Hevi-Shot is comprised of tungsten alloy (tungsten is an element which is harder than steel/iron), nickel, and iron. Hevi-Shot pellets are very hard and they must be contained within a special non-toxic shotcup."
Taken from a reloading sales site

So Hevi-shot is a Non Lead shot. Mostly meant for waterfowl of were lead is banned. Lead will be more effective and retain more energy at distance than Hevi Shot along with lead costing less than half the cost.


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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:13 pm

jerry wrote:"Hevi-Shot is a non-toxic alternative to steel with density similar to that of lead shot. This pellet produces impressive long-range patterns and down-range lethality.
Hevi-Shot is comprised of tungsten alloy (tungsten is an element which is harder than steel/iron), nickel, and iron. Hevi-Shot pellets are very hard and they must be contained within a special non-toxic shotcup."
Taken from a reloading sales site

So Hevi-shot is a Non Lead shot. Mostly meant for waterfowl of were lead is banned. Lead will be more effective and retain more energy at distance than Hevi Shot along with lead costing less than half the cost.


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Great info! So in your opinion, would you consider the Hornady "heavy magnum" a hevi shot load or ordinary shells?
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:40 pm

Went to Cabela's today to pick up some Hornady® Heavy Magnum Coyote 00 buck 3''....ended up with Hornady® Varmint Express #4 Buckshot 2 3/4. Cabela's website said they carried it, but when I got there they either were out of stock or the web lied to me.. But I'm sure the #4 will do fine. I still plan on picking up some 00 buck soon. weather permitting I'll do some patterning tomorrow.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Thom » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:18 pm

#4 buck has long been considered the standard for shotgun varmint hunting. The .24 caliber pellets are considered the most effective compromise between power, range and pattern and the holes are small enough to preserve the hide. Or at least that it what I was always told growing up! To be honest, I have never done a performance comparison test of my own, but I was always satisfied with #4 buckshot results.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Globemaster » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:38 pm

Uberschprung wrote:Went to Cabela's today .... ended up with Hornady® Varmint Express #4 Buckshot 2 3/4.

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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Rob » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:33 am

I use Remington 3" #4 Buck. I believe pellet count is 43. Never had one get away when hit with that load.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:52 pm

Well, went out today in the awesome washington weather to shoot my ammo. Brought out the good old 870 18''. 1st shot was low and second was better but also low. Don't know if it was me or the gun. I will go out again and do a more in depth test. Second photo is bullseye.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Thom » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:14 pm

Good fun! Have you thought about putting sights or a scope on it?
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:26 pm

Thom wrote:Good fun! Have you thought about putting sights or a scope on it?


Ah yes, forgot to mention that. It has ghost ring sights. Once I start getting paid at my internship job, I'll look into a red dot.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:55 pm

Any ideas on how to imrove accuracy without spending too much?
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Thom » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:01 pm

Practice.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:01 pm

Thom wrote:Practice.

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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Rob » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:37 am

Do you have interchangeable choke tubes? Try different ones. The tightest one doesn't always produce the best pattern. In my Mossberg 535 with 18" barrel, the "full" choke patterns better than the "xx full" turkey choke, but only with the #4 Buck.
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:40 am

My 870 is fixed cylinder choke :cry:
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Re: Hornady 12 GA Heavy Magnum®

Postby Uberschprung » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:21 pm

Okay, since my target was an old dry erase board, I circled each hole and numbered it. There were a number of 33 holes in the target. If my math is correct there was could have been a maximum of 48 pellets (24 in each. I shot 2 rounds) take away 33 from 48, that leaves 15. Divide that by 2 (for each shell) and you get 7.5 rounded to 8. So, Average the amount of shot lost in each round was 8! Not bad knowing I still shot low. :thumbs up:
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