True.John A. wrote:Olympics carriers are made so as to not contact an auto sear so neither would work in a registered MG lower.
Also true.John A. wrote:The 7.62x39 carrier itself could be switched to an M16 (FA) carrier and it should work then, but the 9mm upper as a whole wouldn't because of how everything goes together in there.
This is inaccurate. Olympic Arms does make a full auto carrier for all it's pistol caliber conversions. You would simply need to swap out the carrier to convert toe upper to be able to function on a standard full-auto lower. Because of Washington State Laws (where Olympic is located), full-auto carriers are not provided unless the purchaser can show that they are going on a legally registered lower, or to a class-III Dealer.John A. wrote:You'd need a Colt style or RRA or PSA 9mm upper to work with the lower unfortunately altogether.
Yes, if that's what you thought then your knowledge is in fact very limited. There is much about the field of AR15 production over the years that is different from some manufacturers. As an example, people think that Colt is the Gold Standard, when in fact, their product over the years has often been the least mil-sec of all brands on the market, and uniquely different so as not to be interchangeable, and this was done on purpose by Colt. Colt- in their ever increases state of arrogance, decided that if they made their parts different that customers would have to but their parts, and so they made their parts different, charged more money for them, and people left Colt in droves for Olympic Arms, Bushmaster and DPMS (which was all their was at the time). Colt changed their mind and went back to mil-spec interchangeability, wavered from it again, and is now back on the mil-spec bandwagon once again.JCS wrote:Just curious how come OA's carriers are made so as not to contact an auto sear? My limited knowledge of ARs thought that the parts were all supposed to be interchangeable - LOL, but I guess not so much, huh?
And you will. You are on the right path, and I commend you for seeking the understanding before moving forward.JCS wrote:What I was trying to accomplish is getting into a full auto AR that'd use my exiscont ammo - 7.62x39 and 9mm - the full auto ARs are close in price to the full auto AKs, but I figured that with an AK I'd only be able to use 7.62x39, whereas an AR with different uppers (the two I already have), I'd be good to go.
The "right" lower is a transferable full-auto which will cost you a small fortune. Once you have that (or any complete registered full-auto which now cost 2 small fortunes), any Oly upper with Full-auto carrier will work on that lower. There are lots of full-auto 9mm units out there that run very successfully, both in civilian distribution, and in the LE/Military community. Oly once sold 250 9mm SBR full-auto units to the Italy for use in their Naval Submarine corp. They have also been sold to the IDF.JCS wrote: SO, if I understood you correctly, if I legally acquired the right kind of a FA AR-15 lower, all I'd need would be the FA carriers (9mm and 7.62) from OA, and I'd be GTG for FA fun with my 7.62 and 9mm uppers? (I was a bit cloudy on your explanation of the 9mm situation.)
John A. would be a better source of info on this.JCS wrote:What type of FA lower should I look for? Note that I'm just a regular guy - none of the "dealer sample" stuff would work in my situation.
You're welcome. There is so much about the AR15 that everyone "knows", that is simply not true or accurate. We (all the OA2 guys) do our level best to make sure that what gets shared here is accurate information, and credit is given where credit is due. Yes, we are all Oly fans, but we ALL own pother brands as well and are a fan of the AR platform above anything else. For a lot of us, our BS meter goes off fairly easily.JCS wrote:Thanks for that explanation - I learned a lot.
JCS wrote:How much do the full auto carriers cost for 7.62x39 and 9mm ??
Rattler wrote:John A. would be a better source of info on this.JCS wrote:What type of FA lower should I look for? Note that I'm just a regular guy - none of the "dealer sample" stuff would work in my situation.
Shermanator wrote:Personally I wouldn't use an OA barrel upper for an M16, because from my understanding OA barrels are not chrome lined.
For full auto fire in the M16 you are not going for accuracy, instead you want a longer barrel life. You will get that from a barrel that is made as close to the chrome lining specs of a M249SAW barrel.
however I haven't looked into the many other lining or barrel treatments that may be out there now, which may be better than chrome lining for barrel wear.
John A. wrote:Many registered and transferable M16 receivers are no less, cast receivers.
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