The Dedicated Difference

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The Dedicated Difference

Postby Globemaster » Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:27 pm

Well it doesn’t take a novice like myself nor the long time AR enthusiast very long to figure out who within the OA2 forum has “The Custom AR Builds” down to a fine art; known as Dtech to most of us on the board, aka Mike Milli; by applying his years of experience and dedication to the details in assembling his custom rifles, Mike’s workmanship shines and stands out above of the rest as a leader in the custom AR industry with his innovative designs and technology’s. I am extremely fortunate to be able to own one of his creations, built on a solid foundation of Olympic Arms parts; Mike assembles these custom crafted rifles to exactly what the customer’s request, with his suggestions and your requirements he’s able to attain the information needed to satisfy even the most experienced of shooters.

I could not share these pictures without first saying my thanks to Mike. :D

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Postby TitanII » Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:40 pm

:lol: :thumbs up: Very nice Engine Tom !!
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Postby USMC » Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:35 pm

That's one awesome rifle!
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Postby Phil » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:44 pm

How is that stock working out for you? I have seen them around and have been considering one for a while.
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Postby Globemaster » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:47 am

TitanII wrote:
Very nice Engine Tom !!

Thanks TitanII, Welcome to oa2, it’s good to see you on the board as well. 8)

USMC wrote:
That's one awesome rifle!

Thank you, I got the scope mounted yesterday, I’ll use a laser boresighter on it and try to get it on the range soon and see what I’m capable of doing with it.

Phil wrote:
How is that stock working out for you? I have seen them around and have been considering one for a while.

I just received the rifle last week and have not had a chance to try it out yet; I can tell from shouldering the rifle that it will add another dimension to the custom-fit of the rifle to the user.
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Postby TravisM.1 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:14 am

Nice! :D
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Postby firestick » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:12 am

What riser and scope rings did you use? What was the final height of center line of scope over flat top or bore?
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Postby Globemaster » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:07 am

firestick wrote:
What riser and scope rings did you use? What was the final height of center line of scope over flat top or bore?


The Flat-Top riser mount base; is from Cheaper-Than-Dirt, the scope rings are from Wal-Mart; Weaver QUAD LOCK model #49047, the final height of center line of scope over the flat top is about 1.75” or close to it:
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Postby mrioshtr » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:36 am

lol YES!! those are my favorite scope rings! i have a pair on all but one rifle in the house! maybe im cheap but they work sooo dang good i just cant help myself
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Postby Globemaster » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:58 pm

Range Report:
I went out to the Range this afternoon; I took the Dtech-Custom and the Remington: .270, I got the AR on paper after putting 2 rounds in the (dirt bank) just beyond the 100 yard target I set up to find point of impact and adjusted the big scope accordingly after each round. The next 6 rounds were papered shots and all on the target, I use a fat 1” black marker to make an X-cross on the cardboard like the one I posted of the .270 Remington group on the other thread, the groupings were well under 3in’s I only shot the rifle a total of 8 rounds, I’ll get it zeroed in a little tighter when I have some more free time, and I’ll post a picture of a worthy group. The trigger job on this rifle is sweet, I’m not one to notice these little things like that yet as I’m relatively new to this rifle but I must say it function faultlessly; the integral compensator is awesome, I was able to look at the POA between each round with no problem. The Magpul Stock is very nice, I like the way it shoulders and adjusts to fit the user it was well worth the extra to have him add it to the build.
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Postby WolfmoonCT » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:16 am

I like Burris Zee rings myelf..
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Postby Globemaster » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:37 pm

Well I just could not stay away from the range :D I was back at it again this afternoon, this was my best group of the set; the time was between 12:00 -13:00 hours ,weather today was 75-80 degrees with overcast skies, the ammunition used was American Eagle Federal 55gr. target range was at 100 yards on a public range.
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Postby TravisM.1 » Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:18 pm

That is one awesome rifle.

Seeing pictures like this makes me want a K16 style carbine even more.
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Postby Globemaster » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:47 pm

TravisM.1 wrote:
That is one awesome rifle.
Seeing pictures like this makes me want a K16 style carbine even more.


That’s what got me hooked as well Travis, I saw those last two K8’s that Dtech built; besides I have always like the appearance of the bullbarrel on the AR’s, they just have a certain flair to them.
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Postby TravisM.1 » Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:26 pm

Off-topic, but I like the Bull-Barrel look on just about anything. Ruger MKIIs are another one.
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Postby MikeR » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:10 pm

Isn't a K8SUM another way of saying UM-1? The only difference is the barrel and trigger, which in this case Dtech has brought up to, or surpassed, par. Am I right? In any case you got a GREAT rifle for a lot less money than the ABCD crowd will ever admit to paying for their inferior guns. :gunner: :mg:
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Postby Globemaster » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:58 pm

MikeR wrote:Isn't a K8SUM another way of saying UM-1? The only difference is the barrel and trigger, which in this case Dtech has brought up to, or surpassed, par. Am I right? In any case you got a GREAT rifle for a lot less money than the ABCD crowd will ever admit to paying for their inferior guns. :gunner: :mg:


You are correct!, and I could not be more delighted with the rifle: :D
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Detec-K8

Postby Fritzcat » Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:54 pm

Is the trigger a tuned that came in it are a tuned 2-stage trigger? My K8 SUM came with a single stage like the other ARs I have but a little smoother. Eddie
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Re: Detec-K8

Postby Globemaster » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:34 pm

Fritzcat wrote:Is the trigger a tuned that came in it are a tuned 2-stage trigger? My K8 SUM came with a single stage like the other ARs I have but a little smoother. Eddie


This K8 has a Dtech trigger job (standard type), I don’t know how a two-stage trigger feels or works, and from the sound of what I have heard and read, which is very little, I don’t think I’d enjoy it as much as this one, I like the idea of one pull one Bang, IIRC a two stage trigger goes through a cycle or something to that effect before the hammer drops. Dtech did ask me if I was interested in one at the time I was ordering the build, I said no thank you.
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Postby Globemaster » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:25 pm

I got my chores done about 12:30 this afternoon, I mowed, edged, trimmed and blew the drive-way and walks and got the flower beds cleaned up as well, I’ll get the roof blown-off tomorrow :lol: I wanted to get things picked up a little so that I could justify some free time on the range with the K8, as we got a break in the weather this weekend. I shot a 40-50 rounds in an hour and a half’s time, shooting 3-5 shot groups at 50 yards, I like to take my time and shoot at a comfortable pace, getting my shooting form set before each shot taken. I was unable to shoot with my left eye today as the range was near full, so I set up on the 50 yard table because all of the 100’s were in use, I set up the plywood blocking board so the guy next to me or his partner two lanes down would not be showered with the occasional (flying) hot brass casing, those guys in the next two lanes to the right were (packing-powder) getting ready for muzzleloader Elk season for the first time, we had a good time sharing stories and I hunted once years ago with a muzzleloader so I was able to answer a few of their questions. I thought I did fairly well today for using my weak eye, although I’m more comfortable using my left. (Ammunition used was 75gr Blackhills)
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Postby Fritzcat » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:27 am

Great shooting!!!!! What scope is that? I had my upper off, in the safe and it fell out bending my scope. Now I get to start all over. It was a Simmons white tail classic 6.5-20x50 and I really liked it. Eddie
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Postby Globemaster » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:09 am

Fritzcat wrote:
What scope is that?


The scope is a BEC 4-16x52mm IR Scope with BDC Reticle, I got it from the (sportsmansguide) it’s a good quality scope for the money; I’m just not into scopes that cost more than the rifle it’s going on; with my eyes I can’t tell if one is more clear or has cleaner optics than the other, I shopped for this one because of the magnification numbers.

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Postby ar_newbie » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:14 am

man.....that’s AR-licious.....hmmm I got to call Webster and have them add that to the dictionary with a picture of your rifle
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Re: Detec-K8

Postby Belial » Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:37 pm

Globemaster wrote:I don’t know how a two-stage trigger feels or works, and from the sound of what I have heard and read, which is very little, I don’t think I’d enjoy it as much as this one, I like the idea of one pull one Bang, IIRC a two stage trigger goes through a cycle or something to that effect before the hammer drops.


It is actually one pull one bang just the same. Difference being that there is a first stage of pull that basically pulls out the take up on the trigger which will typically be "Most" of the total trigger pull weight. Then it adds a smaller percentage of the weight on the last stage to let the hammer go. Kinda tricks your mind into thinking its alot lighter of a pull since it just adds a little on the second stage. They can work quite well actually, so don't shy away from trying one at some point. I have had pretty good luck with them...

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Postby John A. » Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:11 pm

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That's some really fine shooting there buddy. The pictures you posted really says a lot about several things without saying a word. The proof is in the pudding. :thumbs up: Bravo!!

And on a side thought, what's the matter, is the big bullseye on the target not enough challenge for you any more so you have to pick on the little bullseyes now? HA HA.

If you're not careful, that rifle will spoil you rotten. LOL Great shooting!!

And Fritzcat, I too can attest that the BEC Goldlabel is a good optic. I really don't know why they're not more popular than what they are. For under $100, it really does what it's supposed to do. And mine is as clear or more clear than many I've used that cost much more than $100. I had been considering trying one of the Leapers 4-16x56 Side Wheel scopes, but I swear, that I kind of hate to take it off the gun since it's done everything that I've expected it to do. This scope has been mounted for nearly 2 years with NO loss of zero and NO problems, so I decided that unless I get one of the Nikon Rangefinder scopes to put on it (that cost more than $800, and is a whole other topic), that I'll just keep what I've got on there because I really have no need of changing it.
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